I guess I am just willfully ignorant…
This is how a typical conversation sometimes starts with a Calvinist.
Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring me an offering: of every man that giveth it willingly with his heart ye shall take my offering. Exodus 25:2
Honest Calvinist: “willingly” is “they do it willingly but not of their own free will”.
Me: Wait, what?
Honest Calvinist: Right God pre-determined that certain men would give to Him and that they would do so willingly because God directed them in every step of giving willingly so that they would give willingly and not end up not giving willingly.
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2 Peter 3:5
Honest Calvinist: In the New Testament? Yeah, it’s the same thing. God pre-determined that certain men would be willingly ignorant of God regarding what He did in time’s past and that they would do so willingly because God directed them in every step of being willingly ignorant so that they would just be flat out willingly and stupidly ignorant and thus not be able to willingly choose to accept what God has done in time’s past.
Me: I obviously don’t understand Calvin’s amazingly systematic way of deducing such brilliant logic so please don’t judge me. I choose to remain ignorant as such and I am doing so willingly.
Honest Calvinist: You just aren’t getting it. God made people ignorant of Him on purpose. If they were able to think then they would get credit for it and God cannot be sovereign if people think for themselves.
Me: Sigh. I give up. The God I know is sovereign enough to create man in His image and that includes free will.